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Re: Great 'read' but a thought or two on the good 'ol USofA

Posted by Joris P. on 10/08/2003 05:33:43 PM

Nothing official - but:

M. is a brewer I personally know very well. Studied at CTL brewing school in Gent. Once his graduation, dreamt of starting up his own brewery, where he lives. Costs proved prohibitive, but it is the red tape that finally clinched it. No way. Then - opportunity strikes. An old established brewery, in the same province closes doors. Three people step in, M. as the technical side, the one who is going to do the brewing, and also a bit of money lent by his parents. The two others are funding and marketing.

One of the three fails repeatedly to meet his financial promesses. Despite business being relatively good, the whole funding (new brewing equipment, new distribution channels, etc.) crumbles, and contracts cannot be met. Bankruptcy.

M. plays for a moment with escaping to a (real) foreign country, where his wife hails from, but finally decides against. Every month he has to pay off more than I earn in three months. In order to do that, he now brews in about 4 different breweries - if not more, and works on his parent's agricultural company.

He lives mainly from what they give him, AFAIK.

But maybe worse of all is what -even me!- I display in this note. You might have guessed whom I'm talking about, but still I'm disguising the chap's name, don't volunteer the name of the brewery he worked in... Because bankrupcy is a social shame in this godforsaken country - it is not done, and if it hits you, you shy away from company, and they speak in hushed tones about you.

If that strikes you as hilarious, it's just because you live in a saner climate.

Of course - there is a reverse on the medallion. If you employ people (don't think M. did, but that's apart), the state - the community is partly paying for your people too. It might have been that not only banks, but public loans have been taken too. And then there's the trade union craziness here, were 'labour' is thought to belong to the community, a employer is presented as having a duty of providing work, and security, and if he fails, he is a criminal...

End of rant.

VeryliberalJoris

MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - Joris P., 10/07/03 04:30:05 PM
        Joris you're a pompous ass - Tony, 10/13/03 04:11:11 PM
        Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - Rasputin, 10/10/03 07:24:52 AM
        Re: Response to musings.(also long but hopefully not a rant) - ChrisB, 10/09/03 09:28:59 PM
                Re: Response to musings.(also long but hopefully not a rant) - SteveG, 10/10/03 10:17:22 AM
                Re: Response to musings - Oops - Joris P., 10/10/03 06:19:21 AM
                        Re: Response to musings - Oops - Mark A, 10/13/03 12:21:14 PM
                        Re: Response to musings - Oops - Mitch Mather, 10/10/03 10:34:32 AM
                        Re: Response to musings - Oops - SteveG, 10/10/03 10:21:15 AM
        Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - Joelle, 10/09/03 02:29:15 PM
        dropouts, tramps, and other sorry people - AlanC, 10/08/03 07:33:14 PM
                Re: dropouts, tramps, and other sorry people - Mark A, 10/13/03 12:26:04 PM
                Re: dropouts, tramps, and other sorry people - Aaron, 10/09/03 08:56:42 AM
                        Re: dropouts, tramps, and other sorry people - Joris P., 10/09/03 10:54:05 AM
                                Re: dropouts, tramps, and other sorry people - Bill Coleman, 10/11/03 10:30:15 AM
                                Re: dropouts, tramps, and other sorry people - podge, 10/09/03 02:02:45 PM
                Re: dropouts, tramps, and other sorry people - Joris P., 10/09/03 02:59:38 AM
                        Re: dropouts, tramps, and other sorry people - Mark A, 10/13/03 12:28:49 PM
                                weather - KSq Domer, 10/13/03 03:12:40 PM
        Great post! - Jeremy Gray, 10/08/03 03:46:20 PM
                Lip Burner Lamb Beak - Joelle, 10/09/03 02:16:54 PM
                Huh? - Jeremy Gray, 10/08/03 03:47:41 PM
        Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - John Sturm, 10/08/03 12:21:39 PM
                Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - SteveG, 10/08/03 01:13:56 PM
                        Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - Andy Ager, 10/08/03 01:21:09 PM
        Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - AlanC, 10/08/03 11:54:47 AM
        Great 'read' but a thought or two on the good 'ol USofA - ToddA, 10/08/03 09:09:27 AM
                Re: Great 'read' but a thought or two on the good 'ol USofA - Joris P., 10/08/03 11:37:32 AM
                        No need to take you to task... - ToddA, 10/08/03 11:58:26 AM
                        Re: Great 'read' but a thought or two on the good 'ol USofA - SteveG, 10/08/03 11:46:43 AM
                                Re: Great 'read' but a thought or two on the good 'ol USofA - Joris P., 10/08/03 05:33:43 PM
                                        Re: Great 'read' but a thought or two on the good 'ol USofA - SteveG, 10/09/03 12:38:10 PM
                                                Amen Steve! - Joelle, 10/09/03 02:23:09 PM
        Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - Jake, 10/07/03 06:45:01 PM
                Water - notes - bread - samplers - Logan, 10/08/03 05:15:04 PM
                Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - Mitch Mather, 10/08/03 09:48:33 AM
                        Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - Andy Ager, 10/08/03 11:13:32 AM
                                Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - Jake, 10/08/03 01:27:20 PM
                                        Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - Mitch Mather, 10/08/03 03:12:53 PM
                                                Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - Mitch Mather, 10/08/03 03:15:33 PM
                                                        Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - Joris P., 10/08/03 03:34:18 PM
                                                                Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - Jake, 10/08/03 08:15:57 PM
                                                                        Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - Mark A, 10/13/03 12:52:36 PM
                Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - Aaron, 10/08/03 08:29:06 AM
        Re: MUSINGS ON AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT - David Anderson, 10/07/03 05:23:04 PM
        The above is abominalby long and dreary. You're warned. nfm - Joris P., 10/07/03 04:30:54 PM

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