Posted by Daniel Shelton on 10/23/2004 12:14:35 AM

"I was also surprised how sweet the OB started out after all the Cantillons."

I hope it's not news to anyone that the Oud Beersel beers are made at least in part by Frank Boon, and have been for quite some time. Frank Boon, as others have pointed out, chooses to use a cultured yeast and pasteurize the 'lambik' and 'Geuze' he brews. Still he claims to be a 'traditional' lambic brewer and blender, and a lot of people seem to accept that assertion despite the fairly obvious sensory evidence to the contrary.

A lambic fermented naturally and fully over time by wild yeasts cannot be sweet. The wild yeasts will devour virtually all the sugars in the beer in a fairly short time, leaving nothing sweet whatsoever. The only way to get residual sugars, and sweetness, in a spontaneously fermented beer is to kill (pasteurize), or filter out, the wild yeasts before they can finish gorging on the sugars. If you taste so much as hint of sweetness in a 'lambic' beer, it was not made in the traditional way.

You're absolutely right that it's important to taste and compare these kinds of beers side by side. It becomes glaringly obvious who's doing things the traditional way, and who's not.

The Sour Trifecta - John Sturm, 10/22/04 02:30:03 PM         Sweet Sour Beers - Daniel Shelton, 10/23/04 12:14:35 AM                 Re: Sweet Sour Beers - Frank Boon, 10/23/04 03:29:36 PM                         Re: Sweet Sour Beers - Filip Geerts, 10/25/04 03:56:43 AM                                 Re: Sweet Sour Beers - Frank Boon, 10/25/04 08:58:05 AM                                         Re: Sweet Sour Beers - Filip Geerts, 10/25/04 05:12:24 PM                         Re: Sweet Sour Beers - Daniel Shelton, 10/25/04 12:25:05 AM                                 Re: Sweet Sour Beers - SteveG, 10/25/04 09:57:27 AM                                         Re: Sweet Sour Beers - Daniel Shelton, 10/25/04 11:45:17 AM                                                 Favorite moment at the Moan & Dove - SteveG, 10/25/04 03:02:42 PM                                                 Comparative tasting - Michael Anes, 10/25/04 11:52:33 AM                                                         Which gueuzes? nfm - Logan, 10/25/04 12:48:15 PM                                                                 We're working on it! - Michael Anes, 10/25/04 01:12:18 PM                                                                         Re: We're working on it! - John Sturm, 10/25/04 03:08:28 PM                                                                                 Re: We're working on it! - Frank Boon, 10/25/04 03:36:56 PM                                                                                         John got it right - SteveG, 10/26/04 11:16:21 AM                                                                                         oops - John Sturm, 10/25/04 07:17:23 PM                                                                         Re: We're working on it! - Logan, 10/25/04 02:35:57 PM                                 Sucking butt? - Loren, 10/25/04 07:09:06 AM                                         Re: Sucking butt? - Daniel Shelton, 10/25/04 03:37:28 PM                                                 "Sucking ass"...while we're on the subject... - Loren, 10/26/04 07:00:38 AM                                                 Re: Sucking butt? - Mark A, 10/25/04 04:37:39 PM                                                         Re: Sucking butt? - Daniel Shelton, 10/25/04 09:54:14 PM                                                 A few things - Michael Anes, 10/25/04 04:00:14 PM                                                         Sucking butt? - Daniel Shelton, 10/25/04 10:12:37 PM                                                         misspelled... - Michael Anes, 10/25/04 04:15:21 PM                                                 Re: Sucking butt? - Frank Boon, 10/25/04 03:56:29 PM                                                 Re: Sucking butt? - Frank Boon, 10/25/04 03:55:23 PM                                                         Re: Sucking butt? - Daniel (Call Me Dan) Shelton, 10/25/04 10:46:15 PM                                                         Tech ? to Frank B and reply to Daniel Shelton - John Sturm, 10/25/04 09:10:34 PM                                                                 Re: Tech ? to Frank B and reply to Daniel Shelton - Dan, 10/25/04 11:29:21 PM                                         Re: Hanssens Lables - SebastianP, 10/25/04 12:14:21 PM                                                 Re: Hanssens Lables - Matthys John, 03/19/05 01:16:08 PM                                                 Re: Hanssens Lables - John Sturm, 10/25/04 03:11:42 PM                                                         How old are the white labels? - Loren, 10/26/04 06:58:24 AM                                                                 Pre November 2001 is the best I can do. nfm - John Sturm, 10/26/04 10:06:26 AM                                                                         Re: Pre November 2001 is the best I can do. nfm - Loren, 10/26/04 10:13:53 AM                                                                                 Re: Pre November 2001 Sweeteners - SebastianP, 10/26/04 01:35:11 PM                                                                                         Re: Pre November 2001 Sweeteners - Matthys John, 03/19/05 01:26:20 PM                                                 Do the different labels taste different? nfm - Loren, 10/25/04 12:26:24 PM                                                         Re: Do the different labels taste different? nfm - SebastianP, 10/25/04 12:32:20 PM                                                                 4 x 750ml is a bit daunting especially when it is all Lambic :-) - Loren, 10/25/04 12:45:31 PM                         Re: Sweet Sour Beers - John Sturm, 10/23/04 04:33:42 PM                                 Re: Sweet Sour Beers - Frank Boon, 10/24/04 06:35:15 AM                 Boon's involvement in Oud Beersel...how long? - Michael Anes, 10/23/04 10:41:08 AM                         Re: Boon's involvement in Oud Beersel...how long? - Frank Boon, 10/23/04 01:49:36 PM                                 You've done something very important.... - ToddA, 10/23/04 09:45:33 PM                                 Re: What exactly is Oud Beersel style? - Niklas Castiglione, 10/23/04 07:26:03 PM                                         Re: What exactly is Oud Beersel style? - Frank Boon, 10/24/04 06:53:33 AM                                 Re: Boon's involvement in Oud Beersel...how long? - JimA, 10/23/04 03:43:54 PM                                         Re: Boon's involvement in Oud Beersel...how long? - Loren, 10/23/04 05:09:04 PM                                 Re: Boon's involvement in Oud Beersel...how long? - Jeremy Gray, 10/23/04 02:25:37 PM                                         Sell your pad in SW20 & you can buy it!! ..nfm - Ian, 10/23/04 04:38:15 PM                 Boon - Bob Johnston, 10/23/04 09:54:52 AM                         Re: Boon et al. - marcusm, 10/25/04 11:42:56 AM                                 Mondavi? - Mark A, 10/25/04 01:58:03 PM                                         Re: Mondavi? - marcusm, 10/25/04 03:11:51 PM                                                 Re: Mondavi? - Mark A, 10/25/04 05:14:13 PM                                 Re: Boon et al. - Frank Boon, 10/25/04 12:45:37 PM                                         Re: Boon et al. - marcusm, 10/25/04 01:21:16 PM                                                 Re: Boon et al. - Frank Boon, 10/25/04 01:52:17 PM                                                         Re: Boon et al. - marcusm, 10/25/04 03:13:59 PM         Re: The Sour Trifecta - Loren, 10/22/04 07:05:20 PM         Re: The Sour Trifecta - Michael Anes (formerly known as PsychProf), 10/22/04 03:51:24 PM                 You both make me sick - Bob Johnston, 10/22/04 04:06:11 PM                         Does Nick's store have more Loerik? - MichaelSorryAnes, 10/23/04 10:43:04 AM                                 Re: 2 More Bottles in stock, 1 more case coming soon - Niklas Castiglione, 10/23/04 04:17:29 PM         Re: The Sour Trifecta - dsanborn, 10/22/04 03:30:53 PM