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SteveG
10/28/06 02:08 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
First comp? Good for you! I hope you get more thasn just good feedback...
Dave I
11/01/06 11:12 AM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Quick Question. I am doing it! I am entering my Westvleteren 12 Clone, and my Rochefort-style unintentional barley wine.

Now for my question. My Rochefort-style barley wine had an OG of about 1.120. Do I enter that as a Belgian Dark Strong Ale (Style 18 D.) or as a Belgian Specialty Ale (Style 16 E.)?

-Cheers

SteveG
11/01/06 11:31 AM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
I entered a quad thing (in the spirit of but not trying to clone Westv12 or R10) as a strong dark ale. I think specialty would be something with a twist more bazaar then just high gravity. Spices, sourness, etc.
ErikH
11/10/06 06:28 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Well, the day fast approaches! It's great to think of all those BBB beers having made their way out to Wisconsin - looks like we got 16 entries from 6 contributors. That's some substantial "representation" in my book. Pretty cool.

Best of luck to everyone!

Dave I
11/12/06 10:42 AM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Anybody know when the results are going to be posted? I have no illusions about actually placing in the contest but I would be curious to see the results. On a related note, how quick were they in sending the results sheets last year if anybody knows/remembers?

I think I'm entering my Chocolate Espresso Baltic Porter/Imperial Stout hybrid into the Big & Huge Homebrew Competition. I may actually get to steward that one as well, which could be awesome!!!!!

-Cheers

Ross Lunato
11/12/06 06:38 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
I ended up not sending in my beer. I wound up catching the flu that week and just couldn't make it to the UPS place. Guess it wasn't meant to be this time.
SteveG
11/13/06 11:30 AM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
FYI gang, I wrote the two guys listed as the coordinators and asked they post the results here if they have them in electronic format. That can be a lot easier then getting your web guy to do it (depending on your web guy of course).
Airguy
11/13/06 06:22 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
2006 Franco - Belgian Challenge Cup results

Cat. 16 - French & Belgian Ale

1st - Sebastian Padilla , 16 E Belgian Specialty ,100% Brett Fermentation,

Club: Las LeBaristas

2nd - John Francisco, 16 C Saison, Saison Cisco,

Club:Las LeBaristas

3rd - Sebastian Padilla, 16 D Biere de Garde,

Club:Las LeBaristas

Cat. 17 - Sour Beer

1st - Jim Denier,17 F, Framboise,

Club:Foam on the Range

2nd - Steve Gale, 17 D, Tudor Ambient Ale

Burgundian Babble Belt

3rd - Steve Gale, 17 C, Golden Gale

Burgundian Babble Belt

Cat. 18 - Belgian Strong Ale

1st - John Francisco. 18 C, Trippel, Trippel Paradise

Club: Las LeBaristas

2nd Dubbel, Mark Morrison, 18 B,Front Porch Dubbel Lite

Club: MHTG

3rd Dave Pegelow & Tony Jacques, 18E Belgian Dark Strong Ale, Attack of the Chimay Clone

Club: MHTG

Best of Show

1st - John Francsco, 18 C,Trippel, Trippel Paradise

2nd - John Francisco 16 C, Saison,Saison Cisco,

3rd Sebastian Padilla, 16 E , Belgian Specialty, 100% Brett Fermentation

SebastianP
11/13/06 06:38 PM  
2006 Results
Looks like BBB contributors were slacking a bit. We missed on sweeping the competitions by a few spots.

Oh well better luck next year ;-)

Congrats to the winners.

Cisco
11/13/06 07:03 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Just so you know, the correct name for our little club of 5 is Los Cebadartistas (The Barley Artists).
SebastianP
11/13/06 07:06 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
I just want back and read this post

<<SteveG

10/25/06 12:29 PM

Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp

I suspect you're the kind of brewer who could dominate a competition Cisco, best of luck!>>

I dub you the prophet steve!

Any other predictions of the future

Dave I
11/13/06 07:10 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Well, it is official. I suck. :( Can't say I was expecting to win anything, but it would have been cool to have placed in the competition. Congrats to those of you who placed or won.

Still looking forward to the judges' notes and doing better next time. The main reason I entered was to get brewing advice so I really cannot complain. According to their website they will have the judges' scores & notes mailed out by the end of this week.

-Cheers

Ross Lunato
11/13/06 07:25 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Wow!!! Congrats guys!!! Way to go!!!
ErikH
11/13/06 07:44 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Wow! Congrats, folks . . .a good showing! So as not to reprise Steve's surprise at bill6beers' identity from way back, let me see if I've got this straight (not to blow anyone's cover, but . . ):

Steve Gale AKA "SteveG"

Sebastian Padilla AKA "SebastianP"

John Francisco AKA "Cisco"

Mark Morrison? MarkM?

Dang, Cisco, no coffee for us?

Cisco
11/13/06 08:13 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
You got the first three correct. Don't know for certain about Mark though.

Sorry I almost drained the coffee pot with entering 4 different beers. Next year Los Cebadartistas will try to drain it clean and even clean up after wards. 8^)

TedJ
11/13/06 09:00 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Dave,

Don't worry about not placing. Competitions can be tough, sometimes there can be a bunch of great beers and sometimes a good beer can go unrewarded. Don't know who the judges were for this one, but a Belgian comp could be tough. Lots of different beers and probably alot of big ones. Judges can get pretty fatique. Keep trying.

mark schnepper
11/13/06 09:59 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Franco Belgian Challenge Cup Results-P.S.

Thanks again to all who participated. This contest grew quite a bit this year. So it will take a little longer to organize the score sheets and get them organized to mail, so we are meeting as a group to organize the results. The first available time we have as a group is 11/22 so the results will be a little slower than originally thought.

Cheers,

MHTG Competition Committee

N8
11/13/06 10:00 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Very nice.

Congrats to all that entered and placed.

Congrats to the judges, that is a comp I could really enjoy judging. All those beers sounds fantastic. Makes one a bit jealous.

MarkM
11/13/06 11:13 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Just for the record for those of you matching handles to names. I'm just a novice belgian brewer still getting the basics of the styles down. I know Steve from a prior life on another board.

Not Mark Morrison.

Airguy
11/13/06 11:59 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Hey Nate (aka N8), I think you met me and my friend Greg at ZBF this spring (Greg was a steward at the event). That's me and my brew buddy Dave who got third in the strong ale catagory (18e).

SteveG
11/14/06 07:15 AM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Wow. Cisco, BOS #1 & 2! Nice!

Sebastian, I take it that was the staggering all brett beer you sent me?

Dave, not placing and sucking are two very, very different things. Please don't do that to yourself.

BTW, Jim Denier is also a name I associate with the BBB, though not the homebrew module. Its neat that of the winners circle there are just 3 names I don't know!

JoeFleischman
11/14/06 08:47 AM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Yeah Dave, I didn't place and everyone knows I don't suck. Right?? I think? :) :)

Congratulations to everyone who placed.

SteveG
11/14/06 09:28 AM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Oh, if your looking Airguy the 3rd place oud bruin is actually called Goudengale (as in Goudenband or Gouden Caralous). "Gouden" may actually translate to "golden" but somehow that word gets tacked onto brown beers anyway. Sounds like a cultural holdover.
Dave I
11/14/06 09:36 AM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
"Dave, not placing and sucking are two very, very different things. Please don't do that to yourself."

Hey guys, I meant that more tongue-in-cheek than anything else. I am actually excited to read the judges' comments and recommendations. Both beers I entered had at the very least slight flaws that I acknowledged to myself before entering them so not winning is not a big surprise or disappointment. I already have ideas for next year, both Belgian and a Rye Scotch Ale. So I am not really ready to jump because at least three beers were better than two of my first three Belgian beers brewed ever. It is just motivation to do better, more for myself than for competition. I still have the better part of five-gallons per batch to drink that the judges never see.

Hey Joe, what did you enter? And you don't count in the suck-or-not discussion since you have already placed with your DT clone in another BJCP event. :p

-Cheers

SteveG
11/14/06 09:43 AM  
Oops, sorry Dave!
Tongue and cheek, when typed, can go over my head! Sorry dude. I was surprized my high gravity trappist style didn't show, I thought it was the best beer of the bunch. But I popped one last night and it was only barely carbonated. Oops, the previous one I opened looked like it was coming along well. Nuts, I may need to sit out this next swap, it will be my first on the sidelines!
Dave I
11/14/06 09:55 AM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
SteveG, yeah, I really should know better. I am normally very self-deprecating so I usually do not think about it much. But sarcasm & tongue-in-cheek are not obvious when written.

As for your beer being under carbonated . . . That would not really bother me. If we know to just kind of use an aggressive pour, and maybe it carbs up nice over the next few weeks or whatever, it would be nice to get a feel for the overall flavor of the beer even if it is a work in progress. I mean, I'll drink it. I am looking forward to it.

-Cheers

SebastianP
11/14/06 11:30 AM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Hey Steve,

Yes that was the Brett beer that I sent you. I wasn't sure how that one would do. I knew it was a good beer, but I wasn't sure if there was a place for it in the BJCP categories.

JoeFleischman
11/14/06 12:28 PM  
Re: Belgian/French homebrew comp
Dave -

I entered a saison and Belgian specialty. I knew going in that my saison was too strong for style. In order to place in any BJCP event, the beer really has to fit within style guidelines. It might taste good, but you'll get kicked in the nutts all the same.

As for my specialty, it received a 31 at the Dixie Cup. One of the jugdes said that Belgian specialty ale's "are all about the malt." So I'm looking for some more feedback on this beer.

One other item, if you and your friends/family enjoy your beer, then that's all that matters. I tend to drink and share my beer more than anything.

SteveG
11/14/06 01:31 PM  
What???
<<One of the jugdes said that Belgian specialty ale's "are all about the malt.">>

I complain about the BJCP a lot, but in this case I have to stick up for them a little. Comments like that give judging a bad name. If you personaly explore specialty ales from Belgium you quickly discover they can be anything. As impossible as this is to categorize, the BJCP did OK with it, the first five paragraph describing the main aspects all start with the same word: variable. They describe hop aroma as "none to high", maltiness as "light to quite rich", maybe spiced, maybe sour, etc. No commitment. The point is its not about anything in particular. Really, all you need to do is have a Stille Nacht to realize it is most certainly not all about the malt. Some of the other examples they offer are Orval, Black Ghost, De Ranke XX Bitter, Cantillon Iris. All about the malt, sheesh!

SteveG
11/14/06 04:07 PM  
Hey, those MHTG guys were good to us!
Here is the official results page posted on the MHTG website. Nice mentions of the BBB, thanks guys!!

www.mhtg.org/contests/FCC2006wrapup.html

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