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Dave I
05/28/06 11:32 AM  
Rochefort 10 Clone: Any Critiques?
This is based on the famous Rochefort 8 Recipe that has found great success. All I did was change the malt and coriander amounts to account for a 5.0 gallon batch and my lower efficiency, plugged in two bottles of the Dark Candi Syrup available from MoreBeer.com, and then added a little more Pilsner malt to get 1.096 OG. I also increased the hops to get 27 IBUs. If any of you see something that I missed, PLEASE critique away.

I am also thinking of replacing the Carafa with Roasted Barley to try and get more of a red color than just a dark brown. Feel free to give feedback on that as well.

Anyway, here is the recipe.

-Cheers

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Rochefort 10

5.0 Gallons OG: 1.096 54% Efficiency

27 IBUs

Malt Weight % by Extract % by Weight

Pilsener Malt 16.00 lbs. 66.53% 73.7%

Candi Syrup 2.00 lbs. 19.15% 9.2%

CaraMunich 40 2.16 lbs. 8.26% 10.0%

Flaked Corn 0.72 lbs. 3.25% 3.3%

Special B 0.72 lbs. 2.42% 3.3%

Carafa 0.11 lbs. 0.37% 0.5%

Hops & Spices

Styrian Goldings @4.20 AA% 1.38 oz. 75 min. Boil

Hallertau Hersbrucker @3.50 AA% 0.60 oz. 30 min. Boil Hallertau Hersbrucker @3.50 AA% 0.30 oz. 5 min. Boil

Coriander N/A 0.33 oz. 5 min. Boil

Yeast

Wyeast 1762

Dave I
05/28/06 11:38 AM  
Re: Rochefort 10 Clone: Any Critiques?
Let's try this again; the format above is crap, so hopefully this will work better. I am also planning a single infusion for what it is worth.

-Cheers

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Rochefort 10

5.0 Gallons OG: 1.096 54% Efficiency

27 IBUs

Malt Weight % by Extract % by Weight

Pilsener Malt 16.00 lbs. 66.53% 73.7%

Candi Syrup 2.00 lbs. 19.15% 9.2%

CaraMunich 40 2.16 lbs. 8.26% 10.0%

Flaked Corn 0.72 lbs. 3.25% 3.3%

Special B 0.72 lbs. 2.42% 3.3%

Carafa 0.11 lbs. 0.37% 0.5%

Hops & Spices

Styrian Goldings @4.20 AA% 1.38 oz. 75 min. Boil

Hallertau Hersbrucker @3.50 AA% 0.60 oz. 30 min. Boil Hallertau Hersbrucker @3.50 AA% 0.30 oz. 5 min. Boil

Coriander N/A 0.33 oz. 5 min. Boil

Yeast

Wyeast 1762

ErikH
11/22/06 08:24 AM  
Re: Rochefort 10 Clone: Any Critiques?
Dave -

Hmmm! Is it possible that no one gave you any feedback on this proposed recipe? Did you brew it, and if so how did it go?

I've never tried one but am contemplating it and am eager to hear of your results. Two thoughts:

- I have heard reference to Roch. using light and dark sugar together in the 10. Possibly a larger % also? Maybe 3 lb total?

- I'm not aware that Special B is an ingredient in the original - Pilsner and a Crystal/caramel is what Stan H notes in BLAM.

- Not sure about the late hop addition? I don't recall much hop aroma in the 10.

Very curious to hear how this turned out for you, or the experiences of others on the board (which I'd think must be many!)

Dave I
11/22/06 10:15 PM  
Re: Rochefort 10 Clone: Any Critiques?
ErikH,

Yes, I did brew it. I used the above recipe, but ended up with an OG of 1.120 (I got more wort than I expected somehow, boiled it down to ~5.5 gallons after quite a long boil, and voila!). As for how it went . . .

The recipe I based it on is Herman H.'s Rochefort recipe only adding two bottles of Belgian Dark Candi Syrup and adding Pilsner malt for the higher gravity. A lot of others has reported his Rochefort 8 recipe is spot-on, although changing it to the Rochefort 10 was a bit of a guess. I have only had Rochefort 8 once, but mine is very pleasant tasting upfront. The beer is a bit too sweet, but that can be explained by the higher-than-expected OG and the lower-than-optimal IBUs. You do not really notice the hops.

I think the beer would have been better with one bottle of syrup, keep the Special B, and add some sucrose, OR drop the Special B, add 1.5 to 2 bottles of syrup, and add some sugar. I actually emailed Stan H. after reading BLAM and before brewing the above recipe and he said they use basically the equivalent of CaraMunich and CaraVienna for crystal/caramel malts, NOT Special B. I think I will try it again without the Special B, one or two bottles of the syrup (not sure on the amount), and some CaraMunich and CaraVienna. However, I am not sure how successful I can say it is overall considering the Barley Wine gravity. But I think it is good and smooth for the alcohol content.

-Cheers

 
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