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Dave I
02/02/07 01:41 PM  
Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
I just thought this might be a good time to start thinking about homebrew swap ideas. Here are a few I have been thinking about and am planning on making:

Baltic Porter: Planning on making a batch of this on this Super Bowl Sunday unless it is frost-bite weather advisory cold.

Barleywines: I have two of these planned.

Overlooked or Experimental Styles: Wide open, but I am planning a Germanic Hopped Pale Ale with an all-Vienna base.

Brett/Lambic-Swap: I would love to make a Brett-Clausenii beer but try other kinds of Brettanomyces, or just different homebrew attempts with Clausenii or Lambic yeast/bacteria.

Tripel Swap: I have the Ahh Chouffe! planned (La Chouffe clone) but may also make another batch of Delirium Tremens. Something like an attempt at Orval might be fun as well.

Ones I am definitely planning in the very near future are the Baltic Porter, Barleywine(s), and Vienna Ale.

-Cheers

SteveG
02/02/07 02:42 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
Hey Dave, thanks for kicking things along here. There is no swap planned at this time, does anyone have something that would fit into these - or any other - suggestions? I am personally a bit depleted right now (not for long though!), but would delighted to get the ball rolling on one none the less. Regarding your suggestions Dave, I can say I have a Baltic Porter planned for sometime in the next 6 weeks. No German hopped pale ale but an Ocktoberfest will preceed the Baltic (close enough for a swap!). Possibly a pale lager before that. And I have a Clausinii brew perking as we speak, plan another Sunday. Man, that stuff really performs like a yeast, I find it amazing. Al passed off some last Saturday, I pitched Monday morning and within a day it was chuggin' away. Slowing now, I expect a "bug cake" to pitch on top of Sunday!
Al B
02/02/07 03:07 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
I plan to make a couple of Saisons and/or Wit for the Spring/Summer seasons. I think a saison would be a good swap.

I plan on making a Viking beer for my "strange-brew series". A historical swap? Experimental swap?

Brian Richards
02/02/07 03:33 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
I have a Barley Wine that I just bottled and I also have a Russian Imperial Stout that will be going into bottles in a few weeks. I have been thinking about doing a Flanders Red type beer. This beer will deflower me as far as brewing with bugs goes. Could possibly have a triple or strong golden on hand down the road here too.
Ross Lunato
02/02/07 04:04 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
I'd like to do a Saison, English IPA or Robust Porter swap.
Dave I
02/02/07 04:32 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
"No German hopped pale ale but an Ocktoberfest will preceed the Baltic (close enough for a swap!)."

That would work. I also have a Munich Dunkel just finishing up in the primary. Hence my plan to brew this weekend and use the yeast cake for my Baltic Porter. The grains have been sitting milled in my basement for a week and the beer has been in primary for four weeks now and I BELIEVE is completely fermented down now.

I think a Porter swap (of any kind, Brown, Robust, and Baltic) could be nice later this year. Some kind of sour/bug-beer swap would be awesome! My Barleywines will not be ready to drink until very late in the year (since I have not even brewed them yet). Just throwing out ideas

-Cheers

Brian Richards
02/02/07 05:18 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
I think a porter swap would be good too. I will have a robust smoked porter to offer up.
Chet
02/03/07 09:46 AM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
I've got a schwarzbier I'll be transferring in two weeks; I had been debating whether to make a dopplebock or a baltic porter to toss on the yeast cake...a swap could be the deciding factor for the Baltic.

Dave I
02/04/07 12:10 AM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
I really think a Baltic Porter swap, or Porter swap if Baltics are too specific, could be great. Baltic Porters in general seem like a fairly ignored style in the homebrew literature, but I really like the smoothness of a lager yeast with a slight to moderate roastiness and potentially a strongly malty Munich a/o Vienna Malt base. The style seems to be fairly wide open in some regards as far as what you can add (Munich, a/o Vienna for base, possibly molasses a/o licorice notes, anywhere from a slighly roasty Doppelbock profile to a moderately roasty porter, lager or ale yeast, amongst other things to consider when making it.

For what it is worth I would really like to see a Baltic Porter swap go down as I would really like to try some homebrew, or even some commercial, interpretations of this style.

-Cheers

SteveG
02/04/07 10:17 AM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
Actually a baltic swap is not impossible for me right now. I have two larger (maybe 20 oz) bottles still of mine. The keg had issues holding pressure, so the beer is a bit flat, but I could conceivably force carbonate it and put it in small bottles to stretch it out.

In general I think swaps done by loose category are great, but we are too small a community to go sub-style specific. It looks like there may be enough interest to spark a general porter swap.

Al ... a historical beer swap? Fascinating Captain! Any thoughts out there on this? Sure sounds interesting.

Brian Richards
02/05/07 01:19 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
I'm in for a geneal porter swap. Don't know that I would be able to have a baltic in time for a swap because I have other beers that I have been planning on making for a while now first.
Dave I
02/05/07 07:50 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
I am planning my Baltic Porter for this coming weekend. It was just too cold to do it this past weekend. However, it will still take some time for it to age properly so that might slow things up on my end.

I am cool for a general porter swap when it IS ready though. But my best beer so far may be the last Baltic Porter I brewed (my first) so I would like to do a nice job and kind of show it off once it is done. Swapping it with some more standard Porters, maybe even a historically accurate Brown Porter with Amber a/o Brown Malt (hint, hint) or some experimental Cream Porter or Munich-based Porter or whatever would be awesome to me!

-Cheers

mikehahn
02/05/07 11:41 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
Hi guys, I have a Saison with Clausenii, Orval clone, Barleywine, and various Lambics. I was thinking of brewing a Baltic Porter, although that would probably have to be a fall swap. mike
SteveG
02/06/07 09:26 AM  
2007 Overview
From what I see of this thread it looks like the next swap will probably deal with porter, though at this point participants still seem a bit thin. I have something I could throw in (I have about 40 ounces left charging up in a PET bottle with a carbonator) as does Ross, and Brian. If we wanted to have it sooner rather than later I'm not sure being in the planning stage now would work, spec participation is a futures market. Say we were looking at later March for a porter swap session, could that work? Right now we have 3, 5 is really a lot better. Can that 3 become 5?

I would love to do a "German session beer" swap for the fall: Germanic Hopped Pale Ale, Ocktoberfest, schwarzbier, they could all work in that context. Lets plan on that. Maybe a saison swap this summer, we do one of those a year, always worthwhile. And at some point before 2007 is over I'd love a chance to compare notes on brett brewing, though timing that one is tough right now.

Hold onto your barley wines too. Something November/December would be great there. The last one was just incredible. Of course, other swaps can pop up at any time, but for now call this a roughed in schedule:

Poter: March(ish)

Saison: July/August

German Session: October

Barley Wine: November/December

Brettanomyces: wildcard

Keep in mind, constraints on these are always kept loose. For example, a wit is certainly not a saison, but I think we could squeeze one in for a saison swap anyway, I think they are somewhat distant cousins. If the wit gets a hair funky maybe not all that distant. Close enough.

Two last thoughts, the mention of historical beer really caught my eye. I don't actually know what that would be, but I sure like the sound of it. And we've played out N8s "wood aged" swap twice now, just think the world of them. At some point if enough people have a beer that was either actually aged in wood or at least has some wood influence I'd love to do that up again.

N8
02/06/07 10:24 AM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
I'm up for the Saison and German swap.

Chet
02/06/07 10:39 AM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
I wouldn't be able to brew & lager a Baltic by March; I may have enough of a bourbon barrel Baltic with Brett if we can't move it back a month or two...
Chet
02/06/07 10:51 AM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
And if the schwarzbier turns out well, I'm in for German session beers as well.
N8
02/06/07 12:37 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
Just brewed the German beer. It's a Blonde Dopplebock. More resembles a high gravity Maibock really. But that'll be good to o in a few months.
Al B
02/06/07 01:38 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
Crud, I only have three bottles of apple-wood smoked porter left (on the Fall schedule this yr).

Scott Jackson
02/06/07 02:58 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
My Baltic Porter is in the primary right now so it won't be ready for March. I would be up for the Saison, German, and Barleywine swaps.
Dave I
02/06/07 05:50 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
I am up for the German Beer Swap. I have a Munich Dunkel just finishing up in primary (largely because it was too cold to brew the Baltic Porter I am throwing on top of that yeast cake) and my Germanic Pale Ale planned for the next few weeks is really exciting (to me at least).

Porter . . . Going to have to pass the general Porter swap, however I would love to do another Porter Swap or big-beer swap or something with my Baltic Porter once that is done. It is not like time spent lagering is going to hurt it though. Just something to keep in mind if any of you are brewing or planning a high-gravity Baltic Porter.

Barleywine Swap . . . I should be good for that one come next winter.

-Cheers

ErikH
02/06/07 06:38 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
Wait, am I in the wrong place? Did I mistakenly log on to the Teutonic Tipple Trail? Or perhaps the British Booze Board?

Maybe you folks are burned out on them, but how about anything Abbey-ish? Enkel, Dubbel, Tripel, Quad? I guess there was a quad swap recently, but . . .

- Erikwhoisratherobviouslysittingonalotofmonkishbrews

mikehahn
02/06/07 08:08 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
Hi, count me in the Saison and Barleywine swap. I suppose an Eisbock isn't really a German session beer. mike
Dave I
02/06/07 10:21 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
"I suppose an Eisbock isn't really a German session beer."

We can pretend, no? ;)

-Cheers

Cuda
02/06/07 10:29 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
Count me in on Porter and the Saison.

I just made a porter, early last month and added 2 oz. of the belgian candi sugar.

I'm working on my Saison recipe(and a little warmer temps...)

I also would like to do a lambic/bret, but I need 9 months to a year for that one. I made 15 gals. of a belgian blonde then I took 5 gals. of that and added some bret...

SteveG
02/07/07 06:13 AM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
>>I suppose an Eisbock isn't really a German session beer.<<

Its not and would overpower the rest, but its not so far a stretch from barley wine. Like I said, we are loose on our constraints!

Cuda, with that I think we can officially schedule a porter swap...more soon.

Brian Richards
02/08/07 01:05 AM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
This is looking good, I might be able to have a beer for all of these swaps. I plan on brewing up my porter in the next week or two at the latest. Late March would be kind of pushing if for me because I am doing a smoked porter so I would like to let it sit for a bit but I'm sure it will be drinkable by then for sure.
DanM(ontgomery)
02/15/07 01:09 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
I'm bottling a robust porter today, so count me in for the porters. Once the weather turns warm I'll definitely have at least one saison...heck, all these look good. You can count on me for the porter, and I'll plan to hit all the others, too.
SteveG
02/28/07 11:49 AM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
Sadly it looks like the porter swap for MArch has petered out. Shame, Cuda has 60 gallons that were barrel aged and Ross is all set too, but it would just be us 3 which a little to shy of a crowd. Maybe in a couple months we can try again. Any other immediate requests?
Al B
02/28/07 02:21 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007
<<Al ... a historical beer swap? Fascinating Captain! Any thoughts out there on this? Sure sounds interesting.>>

Well, I was going to do a Gotlandsricka/Viking brew as a Historical thing (might be good for the fall), its a smoked beer from birch, w/ juniper and rye.

Just racked off a Dortmunder, I'm pretty sure I'll have some stowed away for a German swap. And I'm definitely doing Saison.

DBear
02/28/07 04:24 PM  
Re: Homebrew Swap Idea(s): 2007

I'll have a Saison ready

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