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Cuda(MikeM)
03/12/07 01:54 AM  
If you had a Chardonnay Barrel?
Well I was offered a Chardonnay Barrel from the local winery. Me and my brewing buddy made a barrel age porter in a port barrel that was also given to us. The winery like it and offered the chardonnay barrel to us. The question I'm posting is what do you think I should make to put in it. My friend is a little scared of the bret so that is out for the first batch. So it will be a clean barrel for now.

MV
03/12/07 08:43 AM  
Re: If you had a Chardonnay Barrel?
A strong Golden or Tripel?
SteveG
03/12/07 09:09 AM  
Re: If you had a Chardonnay Barrel?
What are the available storage conditions? Urquell was a far better beer when it was stored in wood, if you're going to make 60 gallons (I think you told me that was the volume of porter you made) it might be worth considering making something more sessiony. Going into summer with 60 gallons of barrel aged bohemian pils could be a nice thing.
Al B
03/12/07 09:34 AM  
Re: If you had a Chardonnay Barrel?
Wow.

I started soaking oak cubes in chardonnay this weekend for a future lambic.

Maybe a wit?

SteveG
03/12/07 10:32 AM  
Re: If you had a Chardonnay Barrel?
Wit was actually my alternate thought! Another great summer beer that you can drink more than two of before falling down. IMO if you had no storage conditions condusive to lagering (can you even get a 60 gallon barrel in a cellar?) then wit is a top choice.
SteveG
03/12/07 11:19 AM  
Re: If you had a Chardonnay Barrel?
Mike, got a pic of you posing with your first 60 gallon barrel?
Cuda(MikeM)
03/13/07 01:57 AM  
Re: If you had a Chardonnay Barrel?
Mv- that was my first thought.

SteveG- Yes it is a 60gal. barrel As for temps. we are working on a cold room for the summer temps.

Al B-I do like to idea of a wit or a lighter beer, Maybe a Belgian blond ale. Have you ever had Unibroue's Ephemere green apple beer? How about some thing like that. Make a lighter 5%-6% beer that lets the Chardonnay come shining through. Up the carbonation to around 3.5-4 volumes, beer champagne sound good to me...

SteveG-I do not have any photos of the barrel We keep it at my friend house. I do have a few pics of the 70gals of beer fermenting in my bathroom. I will need to dig out the photos they are in my other computer.

Al B
03/13/07 07:15 AM  
Re: If you had a Chardonnay Barrel?
<<I do have a few pics of the 70gals of beer fermenting in my bathroom>>

So.......using the bathtub as an open fermenter, eh?!? :>

Yes, a speciality brew like Ephemere would be a nice lawnmower Summer treat. My first thought was an abbey single such as Witkap Pater.

WitSok
03/13/07 08:24 PM  
Re: If you had a Chardonnay Barrel?
Cuda, how strong was your porter? In my experience, small to mid sized beers do not hold up well in a barrel. A friend of mine and local brewery tried to age a Scottish 80/- (export) in a bourbon barrel. It soured quite quickly. Another frined aged a IIPA in wine and it definately attenuated more in the barrel and picked up some sourness. If your friend is worried about brett, then I'd avoid small to mid sized beers. It wouldn't be a summer quaffer, but what about a blond wheat wine?

Cheers,

Dan Morey

Cuda(MikeM)
03/14/07 12:11 AM  
Re: If you had a Chardonnay Barrel?
So.......using the bathtub as an open fermenter, eh?!? :>

that is a great idea LOL!

I do like the idea of a Single, do you have a recipe for Witkap Pater?

Al B
03/14/07 07:22 AM  
Re: If you had a Chardonnay Barrel?
Not really, I suppose a lower gravity trippel will suffice,

but the yeast selection and ferm. temp. might be the trick. I always catch a nice lemony aroma from Witkap.

Cuda(MikeM)
03/15/07 02:53 AM  
Re: If you had a Chardonnay Barrel?
WitSok,

the SG was 1.081 It did attenuated a little more in the barrel but did not sour. One thing to note is the winery clean and sulfured the barrel right away for us. We were very careful to have as clean a barrel as we can. It does help that the winery did a little extra work for us in the clean and sulfuring it right away for us.

Al B,

The reason I asked is we don't have Witkap on the west coast.

Al B
03/15/07 07:30 AM  
Re: If you had a Chardonnay Barrel?
<<The reason I asked is we don't have Witkap on the west coast>>

WHAT!?!?! ........sorry to hear that. I believe there's a abbey single recipe in Randy Mosher's book "Radical Brewing"

Mike Mraz(cuda)
08/25/07 03:27 PM  
Re: If you had a Chardonnay Barrel?
Well the beer is out of the barrel, And what a nice beer it is. We ended up making a Golden Strong at about 9%abv. It was in the barrel for 4 months. It has a nice hint of the chardonnay some little hints oak and a little malt back bone taste to it, very nice and also very drinkable the fg is 1.007 :) . We bottled 35gals(so much fun) the corker got a work out last night. Then we kegged the rest for a later date...
shoreman
08/25/07 03:50 PM  
Re: If you had a Chardonnay Barrel?
A Belgian Pale Ale or Strong Golden.
 
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