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SteveG
05/03/07 10:40 AM  
Is anyone interested in historical brewing?
Over across the street we have a real enthusiast of antique beers styles. Probably most of you have read Ron's posts, he might be the most dedicated beer historian I know, exceeding even what I've heard from Mr. Jackson (who is no sloutch in that area). Over time he has posted a bunch of nearly lost recipes. Would anyone be interested in some experimental brewing to attempt recreation of some of these? Ron has more than enough data to work from. What if a subsequent swap required a bottle be sent to Europe (to Ron)?
shoreman
05/03/07 01:06 PM  
Re: Is anyone interested in historical brewing?
I picked this book up a few years ago and have wanted to brew one of these for a while, but haven't got around to it. It is a fantastic book though.

www.durdenparkbeer.org.uk/Publications.htm

SteveG
05/03/07 01:36 PM  
Re: Is anyone interested in historical brewing?
Does that mean you'd be OK with what I am describing?
N8
05/03/07 02:00 PM  
Re: Is anyone interested in historical brewing?
I'm in.

I've been eyeing those recipes that Ron has been posting.

I think it would very interesting to see where it leads.

SteveG
05/03/07 02:04 PM  
Re: Is anyone interested in historical brewing?
Old faithful! If we can score two more (I think this is an area that Al has been eyeballing as well) I'll go to Ron and we'll draft some neat plan. Do you think we should all try to make the same thing, then do historical swaps a couple times a year? As opposed to eveyone picking something and focusing on diversity come taste time.
N8
05/03/07 04:18 PM  
Re: Is anyone interested in historical brewing?
I suppose I could go either way. As in, all the same recipe, or all doing different ones.

The idea of doing several a year isn't bad. Why don't we see who else is interested and what they think. Both methods could have their +/-'s.

TedJ
05/03/07 04:42 PM  
Re: Is anyone interested in historical brewing?
Dsanborn
05/03/07 04:48 PM  
Re: Is anyone interested in historical brewing?
It all depends on the timing for me. Work has swamped me lately, but that should be changing soon (I hope). I'd need to dust off the gear with a quick batch of something else before hitting one of Rons recipes.

Is that a yes or no???

cheers, scamborn

TedJ
05/03/07 05:02 PM  
Re: Is anyone interested in historical brewing?
Opps, shooting blanks.

I'm interested. One thought on doing the "same" beer would be to explore different techniques/ingredients to brew the same historical beer. I would bet that most historical recipes are not going to be complete or well explained. Each brewer could vary different things.

Roast some malt over wood fire to get a "brown" which will be different from a modern brown malt. Measuring mash temperatures, use rule of thumb. Lauter in a basket not a tun. These type of variations will result in differences in the final brew.

SteveG
05/03/07 05:02 PM  
Re: Is anyone interested in historical brewing?
Dave, since this is day #1 of the "is this a good idea?" stage I think its a yes. Can't say what the time table would be here, and I don't know anything about the target beers. Who knows, if one takes 6 months to make I guess this won't be happening soon! Before we start I'd want to discuss this with Ron. Maybe make a list of a couple possible beers to make. Then we'd have to decide how to proceed - do we all make the same or all go in different directions?
shoreman
05/03/07 05:35 PM  
Re: Is anyone interested in historical brewing?
I'd love to brew, but I just moved and now need to get an outdoor burner, so I'm out.
tomc
05/03/07 06:13 PM  
Re: Is anyone interested in historical brewing?
Where online can one go to see these recipies?

Tom

SteveG
05/03/07 07:20 PM  
Re: Is anyone interested in historical brewing?
Tom, I think Ron has this stuff published, or at least a lot of links to resource sites. He digs pretty deep into this stuff, on a few occasions he has posted some antique recipe info on the BBB. He definately has more than enough material here. I'll work with him to assemble that, step one is to see what the options are. I think we probably have enough interest to proceed.

Hey, if you're the Tom I think you are I should be in your neck of the woods the 13th of July. Would you be up for a visitor? If you're not the TomC from the DC area, please disregard!!

Ron Pattinson
05/04/07 05:42 AM  
Historical recipes
You can find most of the old recipes I have here:

www.europeanbeerguide.net/beerale.htm

You'll find the basic details such as malt bill, amount of hops and OG. I have more detailed info for most of them - stuff such as mashing temeratures, fermentation temperatures and more details on the ingredients. For some I can provide a copy of the original brewing log.

tomc
05/06/07 08:42 AM  
Re: Is anyone interested in historical brewing?
Sorry SteveG, I live north of Philly.
Al B
05/09/07 08:14 AM  
Re: Is anyone interested in historical brewing?
An old porter looks like something that interests me. I've been interested in the use of amber and brown malts, and a technique of boiling the first quart or so of the first runnings into a thick syrup for complexity.

Then, there's the possibility of an aged "stale" version with Brett/lacto.

 
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