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ewanzel
10/04/07 10:34 AM  
I'm moving, now how should I handle the wild beers
My wife and I will be moving across town in about 1.5 months and I'm wondering if there is anything I can do to prevent the pellicle from falling and oxidation taking hold. At the time of the move the beer will be a week shy of 5 months.

Right now the options I'm considering are:

1- keep it how it is drive slow and hope for the best.

2- keep it how it is, drive slow, and feed it a little neutral wort at it's new home in hopes of encouraging the pellicle to repair/reform.

3- keep it how it is, drive slow, and add some fruit (dried cherries or apricots) when the beer get's to it's new home in hopes of encouraging the pellicle to repair/reform

4- keep it how it is drive slow and add some aged hops to the top of the beer to help prevent oxidation if the pellicle falls.

5- Transfer the beer from the 6 gallon carboy to a 5 gallon vessel to minimize head space

6- Any combination of the above

7- Any better alternatives that the sage wisdom of the board may have that I have not thought of yet.

I know that none of this ideal, but I'm really just looking for the best option...for some reason the wife didn't like the suggestion of waiting to move until my beer is done.

Thanks in advance

SteveG
10/04/07 11:42 AM  
Re: I'm moving, now how should I handle the wild b
The slow drive is not a factor, the pellicle will be mixed in by the time you get the carboy to the car. If it were me I'd carefully rack the beer out from under the pellicle then transport.
Ryan
10/04/07 12:02 PM  
moving suggestion
Ask the new people moving into your current place if you can leave bottle of funk in their basement for a year.

tell them its toxic but well contained and you have to wait to have professionals come get it with special gear and whatnot...tell them not to touch it.

ewanzel
10/04/07 04:43 PM  
Re: I'm moving, now how should I handle the wild b
SteveG, what would you recommend after it arrives at the new place? I guess I was lucky...2 weeks ago I was able to move this carboy about 20ft (I needed to get at something behind the carboy) without disrupting the pellicle. I can try, but I'm not sure that will fly Ryan.
SteveG
10/04/07 05:07 PM  
Re: I'm moving, now how should I handle the wild b
Wow, you've had better luck than me. My pellicles break up if I look at them. I think the next step once you move (or once you rack) is taste it. The next step will depend on what you think of the beer at that point.
Dsanborn
10/04/07 11:00 PM  
Re: I'm moving, now how should I handle the wild b
<<My pellicles break up if I look at them.>>

Steve, I don't think it's an issue with the pellicle :)

I ditto Ryan, see if you could keep it there for a bit (move it well out of the way of anything the new folks may be doing.

Short of that, rack it, taste it, etc. An option I've used when moving carboys has been to use 'wine gas' to blanket the beer after the move. it's heavier than air so it keeps O2 out of the way; not sure how this would affect funky beers. I'll let others comment on that.

ciao, scamborn

Ryan
10/05/07 06:34 AM  
Re: I'm moving, now how should I handle the wild b
for the record, mine was a bad attempt at being funny

SteveG
10/05/07 07:09 AM  
Re: I'm moving, now how should I handle the wild b
I don't know Dave, no matter how carefully I roll the carboy (after tipping it on its side) the pellicle seems to mix!!

Bad attempt at being funny: take two!

ewanzel
10/05/07 09:20 AM  
Re: I'm moving, now how should I handle the wild b
I know that you were trying to be funny...I was trying to be sarcastic....guess that failed too.

SteveG, I trust your experience and will do what you say, but it seems as if you are suggesting that I should avoid transfering any of the pellicle to the new vessel at all cost...what's the reasoning behind this?

"wine gas"...do you mean Argon? If so that's not an option for me. However, I could lay a blanket of CO2 or nitro "beer gas" in a 5 gallon keg, bleed off any O2, and rack the beer under pressure. This would allow me to keep it as a closed system under about 5 psi pressure durring the physical move and then attach a quick disconect with a short gas hose and airlock attached (I've rigged this system before to ferment in a 10 gallon keg and it works well). Any thoughts on this option?

SteveG
10/06/07 10:20 AM  
Re: I'm moving, now how should I handle the wild b
Pellicle is useful to the beer when it sits on top. I'd rather not mix it in I guess just cause it isn't the kind of thing I'd want in my beer. So as long as its would no longer be fullfilling its role I'd rather remove it than have it break up and be suspended.
Dave I
12/06/07 09:27 PM  
Re: I'm moving, now how should I handle the wild b
I will probably have a similar problem. I am planning a few batches of pellicle-producing sour ales, but my wife and I are very likely to more in a year or two.

1) Is there anything I can do to prepare for my inevitable move? I am thinking maybe age the beer in kegs and just transport them to the new house when we move and not worry about it. Can I do that or will it still cause issues?

2) If I do so (age the beers in a keg) should I occasionally open the keg and let some fresh O2 into the headspace or keep it totally anaerobic? Before moving it, should I fill the keg headspace with CO2 and burp out the O2?

3) If I should age it in a carboy, can I keg it before the move and then just serve it from the tap without re-transferring it to another container? Or will I need to rack off any pellicle that may (re)form in the keg?

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