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Dave I
12/13/07 09:07 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
I got my cubes in Wisconsin yesterday. Thanks a million Al! I showed my wife and she was not particularly thrilled, and sure they may not look like much, but I was pretty excited!

-Cheers

BPotts
12/14/07 05:40 AM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
They may not not look like much, but they certainly smell wonderful ;)
Al B
12/14/07 07:37 AM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
John A + CDH -

Your cubes are packaged and will be shipped tomorrow (Sat), so look for them next week......

John A
12/14/07 12:59 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Thanks for the update Al
CDH
12/18/07 10:17 AM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Al-

Thanks so much! The bugfarm bundle arrived unscathed yesterday.

SAH
12/18/07 12:42 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
I've decided half the cubes are going into a saison fermenting now, which may or may not be blended with something else(Mike T's Cable Car clone?). And the other half probably a pLambic.
Al B
12/18/07 12:53 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
FYI -

Pellicles are growing in my 3 gal. lambic since adding 1 tube of cubes on 12/8.

SAH
12/18/07 02:42 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Al B, what are you fermenting in, and is there an airlock or some other type of 'closure'?
Al B
12/18/07 02:53 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Glass, but I haven't place any water in the airlock. There are some bubbles of gas poking through the pellicle/film/slime so I'm not concerned with filling the airlock (its there to keep fruit flies out right now).

Al Bruxellensis

Ryan
12/18/07 02:55 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Al

did you add the chips to the wort or did you make a starter?

Al B
12/18/07 03:03 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
They were added directly to an ambient brew of 1 week old or so. The cubes are fresh, so a starter would not be needed for a long journey of fermenting.
Scott R
12/20/07 12:56 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Anyone thought about doing a pseudo ambient ferment with just the cubes? (Using the bugs, etc. in a primary ferment as well as secondary) Seems like the only thing they might be missing is a standard S. cerevisiae. Is this a bad idea?
John A
12/23/07 09:57 AM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Al,

The cubes were delivered yesterday.

Thank you

John

BPotts
12/29/07 03:59 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Two weeks later - pellicle forming on the vienna ale, some nice big sticky looking bubbles on the surface...
BPotts
01/02/08 09:32 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Bottled up a kriek today and added the left over dregs in the carboy to my Bugfarm Brew. Now, on top of all Al's bugs, are some more from cantillon and oud beersel...
B P S
01/04/08 12:30 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
I'm also working up a recipe for a sour beer, using vinnie's dime bag of bugs from NHC, what is the best way to grow up a starter with the bugs, I do stir plate starters normally but thought that airation and wood chips might be a problem. I also read that some bugs dye off early does that mean I should add fresh wort often, (maybe decant and repitch weekly?) I'm looking to get a healthy cell count to infect a 10 gal golden belgium with candi syrup started OG 1.089 WLP500 & 510 primary, I'd like to get a interesting brett / funk without going too sour, and not loose all of the malt / body.
BPotts
01/04/08 06:20 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
The only time I've been able to retain some maltiness with brett/bugs is with an OG of 1.13 - no specialty grains are coming through in that and it's STILL going months later....If you want to retain some maltiness you're going to have to intervene with the fermentation and stop it yourself. You can heat the brew, and there are additives you can mix in that supposedly inhibit the bretts but i've never tried either myself.
Brian Richards
01/05/08 01:35 AM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Looks like I completely missed this bus huh? Al I sent you an email but that was before I saw the date that you actually sent them out. Oh well, pretty cool of you to share your critters with everyone.
Al B
01/05/08 09:55 AM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Brian - you missed the bus....BUT a taxi is on the way! You are in luck, I have a couple more - so I can send you one (i'm not at work today, so next week).

Al Bug-bus

Brian Richards
01/05/08 11:23 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
May the beer gods shine down on you. That is great!
Al B
01/09/08 10:39 AM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
The last of the Bugfarm cubes will be shipped off today. I will be doing another viability check soon, so for those who are waiting to use them, I'll provide info next week.

Skål !

Al

Brian Richards
01/11/08 12:34 AM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Awesome, I just picked up a 55lb sack of Belgian Pils today to get funky with.
Al B
01/12/08 10:30 AM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
A second plate count is looking pretty good yet - about 2.8 x 10^6 or 2,800,000 bugs/cube. A little lower than initial, but I wouldn't worry if you haven't used them yet.
Ryan
01/12/08 11:42 AM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Thanks Al

I just dropped one cube into a gallon of Flanders red and the rest into the other 4 gallons. The split will facilitate fruiting one of them.

Hmm... which one to fruit and with what to fruit?

Dave I
01/12/08 11:44 AM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Hey Al, I am planning to brew a batch next weekend for the second half of the tube of inoculated cubes I got from you. Would it be safe to let the wood cubes sit in the fridge for two weeks to allow for the beer to sit in primary for a week, or should I do something like make a small starter for the cubes or throw them in with the primary yeast?

Thanks again. Batch #1 is infected with a light ring of tiny white bubbles around the edge of the beer!

-Cheers

Al B
01/12/08 09:10 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Dave -

They should be fine for another month, I'm confident in that. You don't alot to infect especially when aging is long. You can always do a starter.

Al B
01/13/08 05:51 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Hey Al

you said the viability is still good. do you have any idea what the proportions of the culture were like?

Ryan
01/13/08 05:52 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
That last post was by me not Al

I had Al on the brain and typed your name in the wrong spot dude. Sorry. Identity theft is not a joke.

Ryan

Eric
01/13/08 06:05 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
If there are any extra cubes available, i'd love to take some off your hands :)

egajdzis@ratebeer.com

Al B
01/13/08 07:28 PM  
Re: Inoculated wood cubes for sour brews
Ryan - Pretty much Bretts, but I didn't look that closely.

Eric- sorry, last ones were sent out 1/9.

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