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Matt MacLeod
04/29/08 03:53 AM  
Sources of bugs and critters
Most homebrew shops in England don't stock the "wild" yeasts from Wyeast and White Labs. Would I be able to create a starter from a commercial bottle of gueuze or similar? I really want to start trying to brew lambics and other wild beers having recently tried some gueuze.
Ryan
04/29/08 06:58 AM  
Re: Sources of bugs and critters
If the beers weren't pasteurized you will probably have some luck. Make a small volume of sterile wort and just pitch in the dregs after you've poured out the bottle contents (you might flame the lip).

Matt MacLeod
04/29/08 08:39 AM  
Re: Sources of bugs and critters
Is there a resource that will tell me whether or not the beer has been pasteurised? My current fav is Oud Beersel Oud Gueuze so I would probably try using that as I often have it on hand.
Baums
04/29/08 11:08 AM  
Re: Sources of bugs and critters
I don't know of an online resource, but the websites of the brewers and importers may help on questions of pasteurization.

I have definitely heard of viable critters coming from Drie Fonteinen, Cantillon, Fantome, Orval.

I have no hard proof of the following, but informed speculation suggests that Boon "oude" products should have at least a brett in them, and Hanssens, De Cam, and Giraradin "black label" should have lots of viable critters.

Sorry--don't know whether Oud Beersel will have viable bugs but again, maybe some web searches will indicate whether it's filtered or pasteurized. You'll have to be careful about whether it's the Oud Beersel made at Boon, or what.

tankdeer
04/29/08 11:31 AM  
Re: Sources of bugs and critters
In addition to trying to culture, if you're looking for something specific you can probably mail order it. I have to do that frequently as my LHBS doesn't stock the bugs either. Although, I'm in the US and shipping to the UK might be pretty steep.
BPotts
04/29/08 11:46 AM  
Re: Sources of bugs and critters
I've used cantillon, oud beersel, and fantome dregs all with success
cmillward
04/29/08 11:55 AM  
Re: Sources of bugs and critters
Here is at least a partial list of bottle conditioned beers and if/what viable yeasts tend to be in them. Unfortunately its a little old, and they don't have any lambics listed, so perhaps a little off topic, but a good reference none-the-less for other yeast cultivation efforts.

http://www.nada.kth.se/~alun/Beer/Bottle-Yeasts/

 
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