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BPotts
10/29/08 10:02 AM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Ok, cool....in that case I think I'm going to brew up something in the lambic vein and then just chuck the chips in and let 'er rip (or slowly tear rather).

Thanks again.

john
10/29/08 07:25 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Im really excited to make some sour beers with Al's bugs. Does anyone have any all grain recipes they would recommend? i was thinking of splitting a batch of saison and souring it and also doing 10 gal of sour, 5 for fruit and 5 without.

Thanks!

markmott
10/29/08 08:24 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Thanks Al for sending this out. I do have your beers here that I have yet to send, some Hair of the Dog brews for ya. My wife just had our son and I have been a bit frazzled but i return to work next week and will get the beers shipped out. Looking forward to making a lambic with this blend!
korndog
10/30/08 11:23 AM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Those making Lambic with this blend: What are you using for hops? Is there a way to "artificially" age them?

Thanks

KD

tankdeer
10/30/08 12:10 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Haven't quite decided what I'm going to make with these yet. Any suggestions based on the final blend Al? Is it more suited to a lambic type brew?

Korndog, I've had good luck baking some hops at very low temps (150-200) for a few hours to artificially age them. Check out this great resource if you haven't yet:

http://hbd.org/brewery/library/LmbicJL0696.html#Hops

Al B
10/30/08 12:41 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Korndog -

Personally, I tend to use a low alpha hop, then leave them in the sun for a few days. Pellets can be crushed alittle to facilitate oxidation. The sun oxidizes hops very rapidly and I do not detect any bitterness using 4oz/5gal using this method.

Tankdeer -

May be best suited for lambic style, but oude brunes a possibility, or American sour type funkhouse ale.

tankdeer
10/30/08 02:54 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
<<or American sour type funkhouse ale. >>

Ah, possibly my favorite pseudo-style. ;-)

Thanks. I have a feeling a couple beers will come out of this.

MarieD
10/30/08 04:13 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Thanks Al!
David M
10/30/08 04:16 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Random question: What distinguishes an American sour from the Belgian styles, or is it just any sour that doesn't fit under the Belgian Styles?
tankdeer
10/30/08 04:22 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
<<Random question: What distinguishes an American sour from the Belgian styles, or is it just any sour that doesn't fit under the Belgian Styles?>>

That seems to be the gist of it. Most Belgian style sour ales fit into somewhat classic or historic styles: Lambic, Flanders Red, etc.

Whereas most American sours are a little more inventive and off the wall. While I love both, the American versions always seem to be a little more creative. Take the wild beers brewed by Russian River or Port/Lost Abbey for instance. Strong blond ale aged with bugs in chardonnay barrels, dark strong aged with brett in bourbon barrels with cherries, etc.

BPotts
10/30/08 06:41 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Al, received the chips today, so what is the final line-up of bugs we have here? Is it what's posted here on the first page?
mrb
10/31/08 12:08 AM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
I'm very impressed with the American "versions" of these beers, and think that having taken a somewhat scientific approach to understanding the nature of the creatures that cause these fascinating flavors/smells has been very positive for Craft Brewers in the States.

Captain Lawrence is a specific example of a brewery which has managed to do some amazing things like producing 10% + ABV sour beers, etc.

Al B
10/31/08 08:09 AM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Ben -

<<so what is the final line-up of bugs we have here?>>

Yes, and the lactobacillus (delbreuckii) is from WL.

BPotts
10/31/08 10:05 AM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Ok, cool....is that the hop resistant strain?

In this day and age is it even necessary to use aged hops? We've come a long way since the original brewers of lambic... we don't have the same sanitation issues that they had and are able to age beers long term without risk of outside infection. Why not just use a low alpha hop, one or two ounces, so you don't get too much biterness, and not worry about it? We use this hopping method for other belgians that I'm sure get laid down sometimes. So is it just for historical accuracy that people want to use aged hops?

Bill Bunning
10/31/08 10:27 AM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
What does everybody think of this: I'm planning on brewing a big brown ale (OG of 1.090) along the lines of Palo Santo Marron this weekend. I was going to hop this around 40 IBUs but if I add the bugs would I need to cut back on this? I also have a Flanders Red I've had aging for 4 months that I could add them to. So far it hasn't developed a pellicle but it has developed the slimy brown funk some have described. I haven't tasted it yet (was going to wait till the 6 month point) but it could be a possibility.
Al B
10/31/08 10:40 AM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Ben,

Not likely hop-resistent.

<<Why not just use a low alpha hop, one or two ounces>>

I have done this once or twice, and I think its not a problem. Of course from now on, I'll be starting any lambics ambient before adding bugs in the secondary, so I'll stick with oxidized hops as long as I have a few to spare.

mrb
10/31/08 11:10 AM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Just got the bugs! Thanks a bunch, Al! How best to store these beasts?
tankdeer
10/31/08 11:33 AM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Got mine in the mail yesterday too. Thanks Al!
Al B
10/31/08 12:13 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Refrigerate until ready to use!
bstill
10/31/08 02:17 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Al did you get my email?

I needed your address, please.

thanks,

b.

korndog
10/31/08 02:57 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
"Personally, I tend to use a low alpha hop, then leave them in the sun for a few days. Pellets can be crushed alittle to facilitate oxidation. The sun oxidizes hops very rapidly and I do not detect any bitterness using 4oz/5gal using this method."

Thanks Al.

Ofortuna
11/01/08 11:14 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Just got the bug farm today as well! Already had a nice 5 gallon batch of potential-lambic ready to go.

Many thanks for doing this Al and expect something in the future!

korndog
11/01/08 11:37 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Thank You Al Beneficent. Awesome treats!

KD

Ryan
11/02/08 06:24 AM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Thanks so much Al,

I'm eager to give these a second roll....

Ryan

Brian Richards
11/02/08 01:23 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Thanks Al! What a nice Halloween treat. You never no what kind of critters are going to show up on your doorstep on Halloween I guess. I'll have some treats for you as well.
john
11/03/08 12:30 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Al,

got my package in. thanks so much!

Jacob Schenk
11/03/08 03:03 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm

Re: Return of the Bugfarm

What does everybody think of this: I'm planning on brewing a big brown ale (OG of 1.090) along the lines of Palo Santo Marron this weekend. I was going to hop this around 40 IBUs but if I add the bugs would I need to cut back on this?

My experience would say you don't need to cut back. I did a 75IBU pseudo-berlinner wiess and it got sour and funk just fine. It just seems to take a little longer. The hops don't kill the bacteria they just slow / inhibit growth.

Jacob Schenk
11/03/08 03:04 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Since I missed out here on #2 any plans for #3?
Al B
11/04/08 09:48 AM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
No plans for batch #3 of the Bugfarm at this time.

It wouldn't be for another year if I do another.

Moving on to my next project(s).

mtc
11/04/08 10:24 PM  
Re: Return of the Bugfarm
Got my critters today, Al. Your generosity is something of legend. So many ideas, so little time.... Thanks again.
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