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EWW
11/08/08 09:04 PM  
Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - Any 10
I have a nice starter of these Drie Fonteinen (via Avery 15) at the ready and have a 100% brett brew planned for the AM. I imagine that it will yeild similar results to Avery 15 sans the spices and fruit (I didn't taste the fruit in Avery anyway). Just wondering what I'm in for...anyone done anything with these bugs yet? I'll be brewing:

75.0 % Belgian Pils

12.5 % Munich

12.5 % Cane sugar

OG - 1.072

Fermented at 65 with only a little 02 prior to pitching

EWW
11/08/08 09:07 PM  
Re: Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - An
sorry for the subject...was a bit too wordy, should be "Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - Any 100% Brett experiences?"
Mike T
11/10/08 09:59 AM  
Re: Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - An
I was under the impression that Avery 15 was pasteurized, guess I heard wrong. Good luck.
BPotts
11/10/08 11:16 AM  
Re: Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - An
I don't think it's pasteurized.... They say it will sour more with age on the bottle...
EWW
11/10/08 11:58 AM  
Re: Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - An
I wasn't sure if it was or not, but I saw a bit of sediment in the bottle and threw it into 400ml of 1.035 wort and it took off really easily. The sample I decanted from the starter yesterday had a lot of the same characters as Avery and I think this yeast should be fun to work with in a few different applications. For what it's worth I lowered the OG of this beer to 1.051.
BPotts
11/10/08 08:01 PM  
Re: Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - An
I made a starter from the "house" brett yeast from the deux brasseurs beer from de proef, but that also contained a brett added by de proef. But then I added a bunch of other stuff just for fun - dregs from the tomme a de proef collabo, cantillons, homebrewed sours, and some others I'm probably forgetting. Stepped up the starter and now I have a nice bed of yeast and it's quite tart....
Baums
11/11/08 10:05 AM  
Re: Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - An
I do not believe Avery has pasteurizing equipment.
David M
11/11/08 01:00 PM  
Re: Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - An
They have the equipment to sterile filter. I don't know if the threshold to get bugs out is lower than that needed for Sacc. strains.
John L
11/11/08 02:24 PM  
Re: Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - An
Sterile filtration takes out brett, lactic acid bacteria, and pedio. Theres a strain or two that can squeeze through but, obviously, strerile filtration works most of the time
EWW
11/11/08 06:40 PM  
Re: Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - An
Despite the comments on what equipment they do or do not have I got a very active starter and very strong ferment going from the dregs of one bottle. I got news for you kids, those bottles have brett in them (based on my sample of the decanted starter). Based on the taste of the starter I would highly recommend that others culture this up and try it out. I will post results when the beer is done.
David M
11/11/08 08:48 PM  
Re: Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - An
I have no information to whether 15 is filtered or not, I'm going to guess no if you got a starter off of it. They have the equipment, but they don't use it on all of their beers.
Baums
11/12/08 10:12 AM  
Re: Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - An
I've also cultured this yeast. Like EEW says, you can see there's plenty of it in the bottom of the bottle. I haven't used it alone yet.
Mike T
11/12/08 11:14 AM  
Re: Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - An
Glad to hear, it gives me more hope that the bottle I have sitting around will be better than the first bottle I had...
Rob B
11/12/08 05:00 PM  
Re: Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - An
I just had a bottle of Avery 15 last week and it is coming along nicely, lots of brett character.
EWW
11/29/08 04:45 PM  
Re: Drie Fonteinen brett isolate via Avery 15 - An
Bump for an update:

SG at transfer to secondary was 1.012, the taste of the gravity sample has a nice fruity Brett. flavor and is well balanced. Body is light and refreshing. I saved the slurry and plan to do a BSD or a wit (or both) with this strain in the near future. As I've said before this Brett. stain has a ton of promise for HB application and highly recommend that others pick up a bottle of of 15 and culture it up to play around with this strain.

 
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