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Arutha
01/26/09 11:05 AM  
how much D2 for a quad?
I have never used the D2 yet. Would two bottles in a 5gallon batch be too much? I was thinking 2 bottles and a little caramunich and special B but possibly those aren't even needed?

I am looking for something along the lines of St. Bernardus 12...any help would be great.

SteveG
01/26/09 11:49 AM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?
I've never used more than one, but I will say in general the thought is no more than about 15% of your grist should be adjunct sugars. So its tough to say if 2 bottles is too much, it depends on how much grain is going in.
Markaberrant
01/26/09 12:21 PM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?
I just made one with all Belgian Pils boiled for 4 hours, and 2 bottles of D2 added at the end of the boil. Fermented with a mix of WLP500 and WY3787 in the mid-60s for 5 days, then let it go to about 74 to finish. Went from 1.091 to 1.015. Bottled after a 4 week primary and it tasted mostly of alcohol at that point, so hard to say if 2 bottles was "too much." I'll probably give one a go in a couple months.
Cisco
01/26/09 12:36 PM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?
I've used up to 20% of the adjunct sugar content using D2. That's 6 bottles with a starting gravity of 1.113 for 11 gallons. Don't be afraid of the D2!!! Belgians will use between 15% to 20% adjunct sugars.
Arutha
01/26/09 01:00 PM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?
I need to pull BLAM out again but I thought it stated up to 30% sugars?

Any recommendations on specialty grains while using D2? With D1 I've always added caramunich and special-B or extra dark crystal.

Rob B
01/26/09 01:18 PM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?
I think in using 2 bottles of D2 that you will not need the caramunich and special b. I typically use one bottle of D2 and then atmost a 1/4 pound of special b. But this topic makes me want to try more than one bottle next time.
SteveG
01/26/09 02:16 PM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?
Wow Cisco, you added a 6er of D2!! Arutha, no question then that 2 is fine.
Arutha
01/26/09 08:16 PM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?
It's up to 20% sugars according to BLAM. I'am at 19% with my current recipe so I'll stick with that and see what happens.
Narvin
02/04/09 06:57 PM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?
I just brewerd a beer with 3.5 pounds (2 and 1/3 bottles) of syrup for 5 gallons. The idea was to make a Westvleteren-style dark strong with nothing but Pils and Pale malt and sugar. I actually settled on 1 bottle of Dark and 1 1/3 bottles of D2 after doing some taste tests and blending up small test concentrations in water. OG was 1.090 with just over 20% sugar (% of total extract).

One thing that was a little bit tricky was the water chemistry; I had to use some gypsum and calcium chloride in the pale mash, but the carmelized syrup added a good amount of acidity in the boil and resulted in a lower kettle pH than I wanted. Westvleteren has some extreme water, so I didn't mind adding a teaspoon of baking soda to the boil, but I'll warn you to turn the heat down first if you want to avoid a beercano.

Arutha
02/04/09 08:40 PM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?
I brewed the beer a week ago with 2 bottles of D2, mix of pils and pale, and 4oz special B for good measure. I am always messing with Palmer's spreadsheet for salts, my water is close to Pilsen. Fermenting with 3787 64F 2days, 67F 2 days, 69F till complete.

Good luck with your beer, that sugar isn't cheap, I'll report back after I drink some.

Narvin
02/05/09 11:15 AM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?
I'm going all out with this one... I pitched WL530 at 68 and currently have it at about 82. It should be an interesting beer one way or the other!
markaberrant
02/21/09 08:16 AM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?
I sampled a bottle of my above beer last night. It's still a bit hot and rough around the edges, but also quite enjoyable for an 11% beer brewed 2 months ago. I've got a feeling this one is going to be a winner.

2 bottles of D2 with nothing but base malt tastes about right to me, and I'm happy with the colour (quite dark).

HEY YOU, LET'S BREW!!!

(sorry, as I was typing this, "Blitzkrieg Hops" by the Hanson Brothers came on in my iTunes)

Arutha
02/24/09 09:33 AM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?
Mine went from 1.086 to 1.024 a week ago, tasted and smelled great although a little too sweet. Let it go another week and it came down to 1.013, I wanted 1.016-1.017. Mashed at 150F. I'll let it sit in secondary at least a month and probably keg it.

Narvin, let us know how your's turns out.

Narvin
02/24/09 11:06 AM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?
So far so good... it's been about 4 weeks and a sample I just pulled tasted pretty nice. I mashed mine at 149 and it's down to about 1.013 as well. I'll probably cold condition to clear it before bottling.
DBear
02/25/09 08:16 AM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?

Are you basing your percentages on weight or gravity uniits?

Narvin
02/25/09 04:05 PM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?
Gravity units, % of total extract.

I have another strong dark going with about 24% sugar using the soft brown and regular cane sugar. OG was 1.099, currently fermenting with 1762 in the low 70s. We'll see if this is too much sugar, but I doubt it.

B-Dub
04/02/09 11:42 PM  
Re: how much D2 for a quad?

How is this beer coming along?

<<Cisco

01/26/09 12:36 PM

Re: how much D2 for a quad?

I've used up to 20% of the adjunct sugar content using D2. That's 6 bottles with a starting gravity of 1.113 for 11 gallons. Don't be afraid of the D2!!! Belgians will use between 15% to 20% adjunct sugars.>>

 
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