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Al B
08/17/10 07:31 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
Matt -

Yes, that's the place.

DerekA
08/18/10 10:44 AM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
Al,

Quick question. I took a sample from my 1.055 sour made with your Bugfarm #3 yesterday. The beer is now down to 1.002 and is already showing some acetic acid after only 4 months. The beer has a nice lactic sourness as well. The beer never really developed much of a pellicle so should I be worried that some acetic is showing so early? It's aging in a glass carboy with stopper+airlock.

The brett profile hasn't developed much yet, so I was thinking of possibly adding some maltodextrin to see if I can coax more brett character. But if that acetic is going to take over I'd rather blend it now.

Al B
08/18/10 04:51 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
If possible transfer the brew into a sealed corny and purge w/ CO2 in case there's an aceto contaminant. If not an option, adding some dextrin will create CO2 for awhile preventing the same affliction. You could also rack into smaller carboy's so there will not be a head space too.

Hope that helps

Barc
08/24/10 02:27 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
Count me in if you've got more BF4 available. :) Can't wait to try it!
Josh
08/25/10 08:39 AM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
I'm also interested in this, never tried Al's Bugs before. Since I'm near Philly I'd probably try to get to the store?
Matt F
08/25/10 09:13 AM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
Is there any benefit to aging "bugged" beers in a carboy versus going straight from primary into a corny? (assuming one is not using fruit or any other additions)
Mike T
08/25/10 09:36 AM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
I'm game if you still have some slots. BF3 is doing great work for me, the first pull from our solera barrel is only a few months away.
JTO
08/25/10 09:42 AM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
I would love to get my hands on some Bugfarm #4 if you still have some to give out. What do we need to trade or swap?

Thank you,

JTO

brewinhard
08/25/10 02:11 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
Hey Matt F-

A benefit to aging sour beers in a carboy is that the bugs do enjoy small amounts of oxygen that would most likely diffuse through a carboy cap/stopper into the beer over the extended aging period. Micro-oxygenation is vital for proper growth and development of the "wild ones". With that being said, if you have primaried for some time and happy with the development of the brew, then racking to a keg for further aging under a purged headspace will be just fine.

For many of my sours, I either primary in a bucket/carboy, then rack to a secondary carboy for long term aging. After 12 or so mos, I take a sample, then if I like it, I will rack to a keg for further aging.

jaymo
08/25/10 04:45 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
If you're using this thread to take "reservations" for BF4, please count me in when the time comes. Otherwise, I'll try to repost on that thread when the time comes.

ps. BF3 is also doing great things for me!

Matt F
08/25/10 06:45 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
Al-

I picked up some BF4 from Princeton Homebrew today, if you have a list going you can remove me. Thanks a lot!

brewinhard-

thanks for the advice

B-Dub
08/25/10 09:39 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
Al,

Both barrels are tasting great and would love some BF4 for the next 3 barrels.

If you have enough.

Thanks Al,

BW

Idaho
08/26/10 11:26 AM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
I don't know if the quality of my bottles can live up to some other folks on this site, but I'll happily send out some trades if I can get in on some of this action.

Thanks!

john
08/27/10 02:48 AM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
Al,

i want in. is it possible to buy it through the homebrew shop and have it mailed? that way we can support the shop and you at the same time?

ps did you ever try the bbq sauce?

Al B
08/27/10 03:33 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
John,

I sure did - I was eating it straight - good sauce Man!

I'll look into the shop w/ shipping. Not sure if he's into it yet......

jaymo
08/28/10 02:49 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
As I mentioned when we emailed, I'd be into the shipping thing from the shop as well (and would happily still send some things your way on top of it.)
jessup
09/01/10 08:08 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
you haven't gotten your new bugfarm to the Princeton/Trenton homebrew supply yet have you? i'm anxiously awaiting:) i live in milltown (middlesex county) 15 min from you and can't wait to use your yeast blend that i've been trolling and reading about for so long! cheers!
Al B
09/02/10 03:38 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
Jessup,

Yes

It is there in the shop - unles he ran out (I haven't heard)

Brandon
09/02/10 04:55 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
Sorry, but I am a bit confused...If I would like a vial of the Bug Farm do I need to get it from your local shop Al?

Brandon

Al B
09/02/10 08:19 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
Brandon,

I am supplying Princeton HB routinely, so if you are in the NJ/PA area, he will have it for sale, or he will call me for more. If you're not local here, then there will be a mini-offering here on the BBB at a time unknown this Fall/Winter.

Al Bug

Patrick
09/03/10 04:07 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
How does a guy get someone to pick up some yeast from thr shop for him from the homebrew shop and ship it? I have a feeling Al has no slots left.
doobliebop
09/13/10 03:28 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
"And anyone in the PNW that wants some bugfarm 3, I can pull you a sample from the barrel project I have in my basement."

Hey explosivebeer, drop me an email. I'd like to get some of this off of you. My address is thedividedsky@gmail.com

Thanks!

Ryan

Matt S
09/14/10 11:40 AM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
How big of a sour starter would I need for a 30 gallon barrel?
eeeeee
09/17/10 10:31 AM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
Al, are there the same bugs in #4 that were in #3? Any additions or deletions?

Also, would there be any merit to making two starters for a barrel project? one oxygenated and one not?

Al B
09/17/10 03:08 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
Brett. custersianus

Brett. Drie Fontenein Oude Gueuze

Brett. Fantome Black Ghost

Brett. Russian River Beatification

B. anomulus

Brett. Boon Oude Gueuze

Brett. Giardin Gueuze

Brett. Rodenbach foederbier

Pediococcus Cantillon St. Lamvinus

Saccharomyces fermentati Flor Sherry Yeast

S. cerevisae Saison (5 strains)

Lactobacilli Sourdough

Lactobacillus delbrueckii

<<Also, would there be any merit to making two starters for a barrel project? one oxygenated and one not

That is fine. The non-oxygneated starter will not have to be large in volume.

GuitarLord5000
09/17/10 04:19 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
Wow, that's quite the line-up! It's the who's who of the beer bacteria world.

8 Bretts, 6 Sacchs, 2 Lactos and a Pedio.

....Wild!

jaymo
09/17/10 07:54 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
No kombucha yeast this time?
Al B
09/17/10 09:54 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
Maybe for BF #5!

The Bugfarm changes every year.

jaymo
09/18/10 01:39 AM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
I'm not sure how much of the sourness in my BF #3 brews are from the kombucha, but the quality of acidity is very reminiscent of the acidity I get in some kombucha. It was an interesting choice.

(I've been considering fermenting some straight kombucha until it gets really sour, then using that to blend into a beer.)

Olli G
09/18/10 07:33 PM  
Re: The BugFarm #4 coming to a beer near you
i'd love to get my hands on one of these.

Also jaymo... I am sitting in front of a 1 L jug of German Hef Blended with Homemade cherry kombucha... It's a killer combo.

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