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1vertical
09/26/10 09:26 AM  
Taste notes from Solera Project
Follow the project here.

http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?board=10.0

excerpt for your pleasure here...

Sampled this last night. Pulled one wine thief out and dropped it into a tumbler.

Chunks of white pellicle were clinging to the glass of the thief...

Color is rust...migrated away from the dark tones of the rochefort base to a lighter redish hue.

Aroma at first resembled vinegar...but not strongly...faintly...then after the pull sat in the air

for 5 mins or so, the aroma was very floral and laced with the smell of the mahelb.

The taste was at first kind of a vacuum...your mind questioning ....what was THAT???

Then suddenly the sour bret character takes ahold and it is distinctly tart and dry...fruity

yep pie cherry fruity..pleasant. Oak comes in the mix somewhere and is noticeable to me now.

The mahleb then comes thru with the almond/pit note and it lingers on your palate for

20-30 mins...pleasantly dancing on the taste buds...after taste is strong and long...

Never tasted anything like this before....It should prolly come out of the cask soon an I hope

to make a pull when I get another keg kicked.

Then I will replace the pull with 8# of frozen pitted balaton cherries and top up with some more

rochefort that I brewed for that purpose...another stint in the barrel and we will see what comes out next pull.......

tom sawyer
09/26/10 01:33 PM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
So this beer is just six months old? I should take a taste of mine, its about that old. I wasn't going to taste for a year.

I wouldn't put cherries in the solera. I think you'd be better off racking some beer out and putting it on the cherries in a carboy for a month or two.

1vertical
09/26/10 03:02 PM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
Too late, they are in the solera already and the bret will

eat it all up I believe....When I make a pull, it will be difficult to avoid plugging the racking cane. I plan to tie a copper chore boy to the bottom of the cane with some dental floss and that way I can pull it up out of the cask when I need to....that ought to keep it from clogging I hope.

jaymo
09/26/10 03:46 PM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
A local brewer in our area who also does a ton of sewing for work makes siphon sleeves out of the same mesh fabric as hop bags. You just slide it up the entire length of the autosiphon or racking cane before iserting it into the carboy/barrel and it filters out any big chunks of fruit, hops, etc. Very handy!
B-Dub
09/26/10 07:56 PM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
Paint straining bags are made of nylon and ready to go at the hardware store for under $5.

I used them last year to rack a brett beer off of cherries. Just tie the bag to the racking cane and off you go.

BW

1vertical
09/26/10 08:15 PM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
Thanx for the tips....not to worry will siphon off some soon.
TimC
09/26/10 09:48 PM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
Exciting stuff. I just took a sample off my solera that originated 16 months ago. Mine is a take on a big oud bruin or old Oerbier. I always find it amazing how different it tastes straight out of the carboy and fully carbonated in the bottle.
B-Dub
09/27/10 12:36 AM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
Tim C,

How was your project tasting?

BW

TimC
09/30/10 11:00 PM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
B-Dub, sorry for the long wait, its been a hell of a week!

The sample was very sour and had an "aged" taste to it. I wish it had more funk but there was plenty of dry, mineral acidity (much like Cerise Cassee from CBC, maybe its the Cambridge water). The last bottling in the Spring I blended 50/50 solera + fresh beer of the same recipe, which when I gave the guys at the LHBS a sample they said "Tastes like Rodenbach." So that's a good sign. I will likely bottle 1-2 gallons soon, unblended, for winter drinking.

jaymo
10/01/10 02:04 AM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
Have you considered doing another brew with brett B and/or L in the secondary, then blending the two to get the funk you're looking for along with the acidity?
B-Dub
10/01/10 12:48 PM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
Tim C,

When you blended your beers 50/50 was it in a keg or bottle?

I would like to bottle some aged and fresh beer together, but fear the bomb or at least over carbonation.

Sounds like it is a great success. Nice work!

BW

TimC
10/01/10 04:46 PM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
jaymo, I was thinking I would add Brett B/L next pull and refill. I like your idea and might try that, we'll see.

BW, bottle. I had the same concern, and after a few months they have gotten a bit too fizzy, but no bombs. The fresh beer had fermented down to 1.010 at blending, which is likely a fey factor in not getting bombs, as well as aiming for a low carbonation from primings. The bottles have evolved nicely from sweet-sour to just sour.

1vertical
10/10/10 03:05 PM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
updated photo today of this beer look down the page a bit in the goblet thanks for all your help and contributions that made this a success.

http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1746.30

B-Dub
10/10/10 11:44 PM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
1vertical,

What kind of bung is that and where did you get it?

Thanks, BW

1vertical
10/11/10 09:21 AM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
That is a Silicone Rubber (food grade)

http://valleyvintner.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=BAR seems like I may have gotten it here...

1vertical
05/01/11 01:40 PM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
Update of the 2nd harvest with pics at

http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1746.45

1vertical
05/02/11 10:29 AM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
This beer has been in the BBL a total of 1 year. For the

record, there were no sign of the cherries and they

began by floating on the surface and now are either consumed or submerged. I do not get a lot of the oak notes either.

tom sawyer
05/02/11 11:17 PM  
Re: Taste notes from Solera Project
I bet the cherries just sank. The beer looks very good. I guess this means I have to take another pull off my barrel, although I still have a few bottles of the first pull yet. This beer got a second place in a fairly large contest. Have you considered entering your beer in a contest? I bet it'd do well.
 
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