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Brandon
04/20/11 05:30 PM  
WLP670 American Farmhouse
Anyone know the brewery base strain for this one?

Inspired by local American brewers crafting semi- traditional Belgian-style ales. This blend creates a complex flavor profile with a moderate level of sourness. It consists of a traditional farmhouse yeast strain and Brettanomyces. Great yeast for farmhouse ales, Saisons, and other Belgian-inspired beers.

Attenuation: 75-82%

Flocculation: Medium

Optimum Fermentation Temperature: 68-72F

(20-22C)

Alcohol Tolerance: 5-10%

Sebastian
04/20/11 09:10 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
Based on the description, it sounds like St. Somewhere, or on the outside perhaps the Bruery, but more likely the former.
Patrick
04/21/11 07:54 AM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
I thought I read somewhere, maybe it was Twitter, that this was from Lost Abbey. I'll have to go back and check their Twitter feed. Could have been White Labs who tweeted about it as well.
Patrick
04/21/11 08:04 AM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
Further searching tells me I might have been listening to the Brewing Network while Chris White was talking about this.
Sebastian
04/21/11 10:27 AM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
Further thinking, has me wondering if it is not based on any brewery, but merely "inspired" by (as it says in the description).

I was trying to think of a brewer that regularly paired Brett with a Saison type strain & St. Somewhere is really the one that does it the most. There are in reality a bunch of breweries that do it off and on though.

Patrick
04/21/11 12:03 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
The description says local, and I am pretty sure White Labs is in San Diego. I'd lean towards it being from CA at the least.
Brandon
04/21/11 12:07 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
I did ask what Brett was in it and if the Saison strain was a new one. Here is WL response

Unfortunately this information is proprietary so I can't tell you the specifics of the strain. I can say that both strains are not new. Hope that gives you something to work with!

da
04/21/11 02:05 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
If it's the Bruery I believe they use the Duvel strain with brett B.

smellysell
04/21/11 05:16 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
I was hoping for Jolly Pumpkin.
ChrisF
04/21/11 05:51 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
so than, they are at least confirming that there is more than one strain of brett in this?
Brandon
04/21/11 06:40 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
I took Neva's response as 2 strains total One saison and One Brett. So my guess would be the WLP566 and Brett B
Brandon
04/21/11 06:47 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
I meant WLP565
da
04/21/11 09:09 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
smellysell - I think Jolly Pumpkin uses the Ardennes yeast as it's base strain and a house brett and lacto culture. You can definitely culture the dregs on JP bottles and get great results.

Patrick
04/21/11 11:02 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
OK Tomme confirms it is NOT from Lost Abbey. So much for Google, and now I'm less interested.

Patrick
04/27/11 12:27 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
Now White Labs has got back to me, but they say it IS from Lost Abbey.
Mike T
04/27/11 01:13 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
Very odd, I don't think of Lost Abbey as a brewery that does a lot of saisons with Brett.
DBear
04/27/11 01:51 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse

Jolly Pumpkin uses WLP550 Belgian Ale Yeast as the base then barrels for the bugs.

Patrick
04/27/11 02:07 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
Mike, it has me wondering if the Brett. in the blend is something not available to homebrewers as the yeast in the blend is proprietary. It could be to protect Lost Abbey from other commercial brewers who can purchase the Brett. So maybe when you think saison with Brett., it is more like American wild ale, as I haven't heard a lot about strains of Brett. that produce a lot of acidity.
Mike T
04/27/11 04:33 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
The old Wyeast Brett anomalus was attributed to Pizza Port (the strain they used in Mo Betta Bretta). Not sure where they originally got it from though, or if they are still using it.
Brandon
06/02/11 03:30 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
I was told today its from the Lost Abbey Saison Blanc
Mike T
06/03/11 10:52 AM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
Who told you? Seems like there are a lot of conflicting reports flying around.
Brandon
06/03/11 11:06 AM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
Hbs owner said it came from white labs lips in conversation
Dan
06/03/11 04:03 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
So, has anyone used it?
Brandon
06/03/11 04:08 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
I just got mine today
Dan
06/03/11 04:10 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
Same here. I am brewing with it tomorrow. If there is a saison strain in there, I am surprised to the temperature recommendation. I will probably exceed that.
Patrick
06/06/11 12:19 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
I've brewed with it, and am waiting for it to fully attenuate. Stuck at 1.020 as of a week or so ago. Smells like Dupont, no sour aromas yet.

In an email from White Labs, they told me it was Lost Abbey, Tomme said no, I don't get it.

Dan
06/08/11 03:12 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
Got the White Labs customer newsletter and they had a recipe to accompany WLP670 and it was for "Tomme Arthur's Saison Blanc." So does that answer the question?
Brandon
06/12/11 04:37 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
@Dan- I have never received the White Labs customer newsletter. Could you forward it to me? Thanks!

bjones615 {at} gmail {dot} com

SAH
09/29/11 11:26 AM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
I've got two batches (first and second "generation") going with this strain, but have not sampled or bottled yet. Any finished / sampled beers to report on? Just curious.

smellysell
09/29/11 02:12 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
I have one in the fermenter that I'm giving some more time, but had a friends at a homebrew club meeting a couple months ago that was very delicious. Brett was still pretty mellow at that point but sure tasted like Brett B to me.
dankbrewer
10/12/11 12:05 PM  
Re: WLP670 American Farmhouse
I was recently at The Lost Abbey and asked about what Brett strain they use. The answer was "we started out with Brett B 5 years ago, but now it's just OUR OWN brett strain."

So it's safe to say that this is a variation of brett B.

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